Admissions, Authorities and arguments

I would be the first to admit I was wrong(although ask Mr Supamum and he'll say I never do, that's cause I am always RIGHT) any way yesterday I posted that PALS did not have a website, that after Googling PALS and all other relevant words (or so I thought) Thanks to More Oz Ramblings I now have the site address...To those who are interested in such dribble it's PALS.

I am NOT IN ANY WAY advocating such a site, just entering into the forum an "alternative"(for want of a better word) view of what people believe is right. Sort of "walk on the weird and draconian" side of non forgiveness and "once a crim always a crim" mentality. So thank you to Mr Oz for the information and thanks to PALS for the laughs.

Next, given that Mr 5 has had the dreaded "yuk bug" I have had the opportunity to speak to a few others about this issue. Apparently one local school is down to an average of 12 students per class due to this bug and it is rampant in the pre schools as well. Given that when we first moved here(over a decade ago) we were warned not to drink the water (never found out why) and on several occasions at our old place we had brown, smelly water come from the taps..You have to wonder about this outbreak of "yuk bug". Gastro is usually contracted via hand/mouth contact or contaminated food. Now, patient zero could not have possibly had hand/mouth contact with the better part of over 20 children, even if in school; nor could have all those ill have eaten from one outlet (if contaminated) if so they would have all become ill simultaneously or within a week. Some victims were ill over three weeks ago and some are ill now. So I have to wonder about the water supply...My kids usually drink bought water(its cold in the fridge) however at kindergarten the water is tap water as it is at school.....hmmmm. My friend whose children drink bottled water at school and filtered water at home, have been in contact with my kids before, during and after their illness's and have contracted naught. (touch wood, sorry JLo if they get ill now) Call it conspiracy theory, call it the mad ravings of a "sick of spew and poo" mum, I just like to find out the whys and wherefores; so I question stuff.

aren't arguments funny...No, perhaps it's just my sick, warped humor then. Last night my father called, I call him my father as we used to say "Da" and too many people ask about it now and wanna know 1) Can't you say Dad or 2) Are you Irish? Both of which I cannot be bothered with so its Father, OK. He called to find out why I hadn't called him, hmmmm you have a phone too, you could have called me. No, he's is my father and I have to call him. After explaining the kids being ill and tests and such, he asked "but why didn't you call me?" Ummmm because I was busy and you could have called me. And so on for all of 10 minutes...So the crux of the argument being that daughters (and sons) have to call their fathers and the premise being that you have to call because you are the offspring. So be the word of my father.

And yet it continues...........So on and so forth...

It seems that the yuk bug within our house has abated somewhat with Mr Almost 3 being well and merry but alas and alack Mr 5 came down with it at 0300 on Friday morning and was a write off for all of the weekend and is still tired today. So no EIP today but he want to go to kindergarten this afternoon, we shall see. Must admit it was nice that every one slept in on Friday (Miss 8 had a in service day..So no school) and I did not wake up till 0900..Oh my, oh my it was WONDERFUL.

There are some interesting matters about in Sunbury at the moment. An alternative forum, Sunbury Community Forum, has posts about supposed, underlying threats made by a local representative because he doesn't like what they post about him. So much so he has spat the dummy on another forum and left the area (again) as he did this once before. I think if you enter the political arena ;at what ever level; you have to know before hand that perhaps not everyone likes or agrees with you. That if you have extreme right wing ideals (capital punishment, indeterminable incarceration, detention centres for asylum seekers, etc.)you should perhaps keep them to yourself a bit instead of spouting them about for people to disagree with you and if you don;t like it ,get out . Easy enough??

Open debate is subjective but can become objective, debate based on fact and not fallacy, methods not majority, facts not fears is the manner is should be conducted. If people choose to openly express their ideals on a public, local forum and they are a local, elected representative...Their ideals and comments become public record and are subject to public comment and scutiny by the constituents. I don't see HoWARd running to Ruddock every time a columnist lampoons him for what he says. Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Everyone has a right to an opinion and everyone has a right to disagree with that opinion, but if your opinion is ill based, inciting of hate, biased or even just wrong...Others have a right to say so...Without personal attacks. Some people seem to be getting away with calling others "naive", "commos" "social bleeding hearts" and if reversed, the batter doesn't like the bowling he's getting.

I really hope other people within Sunbury recognise that a new broom sweeps clean and much of the other side of our representative is left unacknowledged by the local press. PALS (which has no web site, I can find) is a organisation which supposedly supports victims of crimes...How I am unsure as they seem to be AGAINST things. Plus why are there support groups like PADV if we have caped vigilantes like PALS??? Why do they not have a web site? What are they hiding? And why is this person known by one name as an elected official and another in his duplicity of roles as President of PALS? Why is he the ONLY person ever to speak on behalf of PALS? Is it true as he stated in Chambers ...He has "no mates"?